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Mara Rinn
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Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2014.05.20 14:24:00 -
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The DST will be more useful than a Miasmos for ore hauling since the Orca pilot can simply drag stuff from all three storage compartments into the DST's fleet hangar.
The DST will also serve nicely to replace a Kryos for mineral hauling and Hoarder for ammo hauling because of the built in stab, and the ability to fit an MWD without requiring rigs.
I'll focus on finding something to complain about tomorrow.
Oh hang on, I found a gripe! They're rather homogenous. I'd prefer clear roles: the Mastodon for "absolutely, positively overnight!" with the Bustard for Ghostbusters style hauling, the Impel for Dirty Harry style armour tank baiting, and the Occator for a combination of capacity & agility.
PS: a long time ago there was a courier company in Australia called "Comet". Their motto was "absolutely, positively overnight? Hello Comet!" (and being the '80s they had a cool jingle too). Folks in the USA will recognise the slogan from FedEx ads during the same period. Our advertising folks in the '80s thought they could pull the wool over our eyes and recycle US scripts. These days they just play the whole US ad, complete with corny accents and pronouncing "Z" as "zee".
PPS: Ghostbusters: no job too big, no fee too big!
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2014.05.20 14:29:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Overheat modules, double tank, mega repairs, reisstance, fleet hangers. Its almost a tanky Orca.
All we need now is an ORE DST that gets the ORE bonus to mining foreman links and we won't need to put Orcas in small fleets anymore.
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Mara Rinn
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Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2014.05.21 03:11:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:guess that means we can change DSTs back to a sensible size so we can put them in the orca after all. edit: it helps if i get my short hand right.
Yup, anyone who has experience in mining will know that you can't put your Hulk back in your Orca if there's ore in the ore bay. This is especially important if you think you can switch from your Hulk to your Basilisk when gankers arrive to try and take down the Orca. In the good old days, the unpiloted Hulk would be ejected into space and you would board your Basilisk. At least losing a 150M ISK Hulk to a thief was less punishing than losing the 500M ISK Orca.
So Fozzie, can you please put the size back to the point where you can put a DST in the SMB of the Orca?
Of course if you change it up so that I can fit two full mackinaws in the SMB, I won't be too upset.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2014.05.21 03:14:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Good. That's the simple solution. I don't know why Fozzie is trying to go for the most convoluted thing possible.
Some problems seem to solve themselves.
Some problems never existed.
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Posted - 2014.05.21 03:22:00 -
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Bren Genzan wrote:My Bustard is named "Terrible Ship", so I look forward to any changes that increases its use, but without a much bigger capacity, I can't see choosing it over the Orca or the Freighter.
The DSTs have a faster align and a higher warp speed than the Orca, so for cargoes in the range of 10kGÇô60k they'll be very good tanky haulers with means of escaping aggressors. Thus we have the Hoarder, Kryos, Miasmos and Epithal as special-purpose large haulers, which you can fly while training the skills required to board a DST.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:18:00 -
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Odithia wrote:They could be renamed something else than "Deep Space" though, this kinda refer to null, after all we already changed the Mothership name to Supercarrier so that wouldn't be a first.
Armoured Transports? 
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2014.05.22 04:38:00 -
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Syri Taneka wrote:Except for the fact an Orca can move ~92k m^3 of cargo with a 200k EHP buffer tank AND also carry 400k m^3 of unpacked ships (of any kind). Sure, a DST can do so faster, but it's a short trip where speed actually winds up trumping that kind of capacity.
Can you show me a fit where the Orca has 92k m3 of cargo capacity and 200k EHP at the same time? Am I cheating myself of potential bonuses by fitting sub-optimally?
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2014.05.22 04:42:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Fleet hangars will follow the same rules as normal cargo when you attempt to place a ship inside of a Ship Maintenance Bay. And the numbers in the OP are currently correct.
Thank you CCP Fozzie & those behind the scenes too!
Having a decent capacity hauler to haul around inside the Orca will make mining sessions a little less tedious, especially with the large fleet hangar on the DST meaning the Orca pilot only has to move stuff around once instead of funnelling it all in and out through the Orca's fleet hangar.
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